Wondering

[Bugger Butts]

Hey I know i sound like a broken record but I was wondering like if you have a horse that the meters stay almost 100 across then you race him win and you do your 1 3/8 LPG to get them back up and you cant get the meters back to almost were they are how do you do it? Without doing a time trial I hate doing that....

[Super Stable]

Short answer: you can't (except for Fitness)

You can drop fitness using a 2F Fast reg train followed by a 11F lpg the next day.

The other meters will not drop once they reach 95+ unless you do the timed workout or they are overworked.

I wouldn't be obsessed about getting all the meters to 100. You will find that most horses will run pretty much the same as long as their meters are 95 or over.

Hope this helps, John

[Stine Stables]

John (I just can't bring myself to utter the word bugger and butt to a man) lol

I was like you in the beginning (stressing that I couldn't get all of the meters to 100) But like Norm (Thunder) said most horses will run the same with meters 95 or better, except always have fitness at 100. I always try to have Fitness, Speed and Strength at 100. I don't run a horse unless Fitness and Speed are at 100 unless it was already nominated and the race has closed. Just consider it a paid workout with other horses. I always want Strength at 98, 99, 100 in races 1 mile and up. I usually don't scratch them unless it's below 95. Unless you've already overtrained the horse you can do a train on race day to get meter to 95 or better. I try not to do that but I have with 2k & 5k claims. I don't think it hurts.

Don't try to go back and look at my results and say "he's not winning anything". I don't have any great horses (yet) . I have a few average to above average horses. I grade my success on placing the horse in the right race and being in the money on those races. My "In the Money" rate (1st, 2nd, 3rd) so far this season is 42%. I don't have a huge stable of racers. I have many that probably won't see the track but once and if they don't show something in that one race, I give it away or retire it.

Look at Day by Day and Big Blue. They're only claim racers probably at the end of their careers. But by placing them in races that they had a chance to win in has made them successful horses. Big Blue was one of the 3 given to me when I started. Day by Day was claimed on 11/2/06 for 2k. Since then she hasn't ran in a 2k and has been successful given her abilities. I've tested her in higher claims races but I think she destined to end her career in 2k and 5k races.

It all about figuring out the abilities of a horse and racing according to those abilities. If you're not satisfied with a 2k horse don't try to make it an allowance horse. It won't work. Either continue racing it according to it's abilities or sell it and put that into a better horse.

Just the way I look at things. Success is what you define it to be.

[Bugger Butts]

Meters

already made one post about it. what I am trying to explain is like i got a horse of of vangabundo stables and his nam is magicon. I can't figure his out one day they would be like stm.100 end.100 str.95 fit.85 and sp.100 do a LPG on turf the fit goes to 100 and stm. end.stays the same and str. and sp. goes down vice versa.every day that happens. Bout ready to put a bullet in his head.

[Stine Stables]

You can't train everyday. The meters will go up and down like that.
Give it a couple of days rest and go from there. I find that if you train more than four days in a row the meters get wacky like that.

[Bugger Butts]

ok thank you for your suggestion.

[Ginkamo Stables]

Fitness goes down after 3 consecutive days of training.
All other meters go down after 4 consecutive days, above 95.

They all usually don't get above 95 on the same day, so they will drop on different days.

I've switched from continuous training to giving every 4th day off. Beware though, training exercises don't give the same results as they do when continuous training. 1 3/8 S & 2F F ect.

[Aspen Farms]

Here goes again. In the start of this game we had a horse win back to back in 2 days. It took me forever to figure how it was done. Because of the meters moving up and down.

Here is what I do, might not be what everone else does.

Train 3 days - rest 1 day --- then you can train 3 days again if you want before resting again. Never train 4 days in a row.

When they run ---- do a full pony right after they run --- 99% of the time your fitness will come right back to 100% on the day that they run. The rest of the meters can be back to 95 or better on the next day with just another full pony.

I have won a big percent of what few races I have won with just the speed at 100% and all of the rest at 95% or better. So there is NO need to try to get to 100 on all 5 meters.

When the meters start to look like they are going haywire rest for 2 days then go back to training.

Take it for what is worth.

It looks like there is a cycle of heart or the horse trying for you. A horse might run a bad race when you don't expect it. This is just another way of making the game a little more real.

[Vagabundo Stables]

Here goes again. In the start of this game we had a horse win back to back in 2 days. It took me forever to figure how it was done. Because of the meters moving up and down.

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I've seen the possibility of this several times...not without reason that a horse could have a days rest on wednesday after the meters were maxed for a scheduled race on thursday. Race on thursday immediately train after the race and nominate for a friday night race...train friday before the races and the meters are back to racing level for that night. I've never been able to do this because I usually schedule a few days to make sure the meters are maxed but it doesnt seem to be that odd that a horse could win on consecutive days.

Brian

[Aspen Farms]

Another point, this game was researched from horsemen?
A real horse needs rest after a race, it takes a lot out of them, but here in this game you can run every 2 or 3 days if you want. I know it is only a game but when you have players that have been around the real thing it does not prove to be true. The game is getting beter every time they mess with it but for the players that are already here it will leave you scratching your head and make you wonder what is going on. You must remember that the game is set up for more racing and everything is excellerated for DD to make some money and for players to have fun.

[Lady Luck Stable]

A real horse needs rest after a race, it takes a lot out of them, but here in this game you can run every 2 or 3 days if you want. .... You must remember that the game is set up for more racing and everything is excellerated for DD to make some money and for players to have fun.

Of course the game has to run to a different scale...who would wait 11 months to have a foal after breeding and then wait 2 more years to race it in this game.

The basic scale is one real month = 3 game months (4 real months is one game year). Therefore running a horse every 2-3 days is like running real life in 6-9 days. This is pretty reasonable (one time my dad trained a horse to win two races in 3 days). It would be more realistic to allow 2 training runs every real time day (3 game days). But the training algorithm is not very realistic. In the real world long LPG's are used to put a bit of foundation on a horse and build strength and possiblely endurance. Long SRG's are used to build stamina and endurance with a loss of speed. Short FRG's are used to build speed with perhaps a small loss in endurance. But the real challenge is to play the hand you are dealt and use the rules to your advantage.

LL

[Aspen Farms]

I agree this is not real life racing and is just a computer game.
At the start of this game if a horse was a world beater at 5F then they also were unbeatable at 1-1/2 miles. It looks like DD has corrected the problem. By now adding the factor of the track surface to effect the game they also need to take into account that there are great sprinters that will not be a great distance horse and viceversa. The best run on any horse should be limited to 3 distances close to each other.

[Ginkamo Stables]

So that's how they did it!!

[Be Nimble Racing]

No offense aspen, but 90% of what comes out of yout mouth is horse manure.. You may be well intended, but i think if your stable put up even average numbers, you wouldnt complain so damn much. First off real horses are not all limited to distances etc. Yes generally some like route rather then sprint, but some are versatile. Some horses can do both, and as for rest between races, this is a simulation, and i know i dont want to have to wait 2 weeks+(some horses rest a month+) to race a horse again. I always read your posts, and just sit here quietly, going, what in gods green earth is this guy bitchin about now, well no one else says anything about it, so I AM. I know we should all be able to voice our opinions and what not, but i rarely hear anything other then crap from your posts. Why dont you go shoot all them pigs you got in your stable, make a new one, come back and have some fun without all the bitchin...My stable sucks, but i have fun, and enjoy toyin with the few mules that i have. So sorry if im being a prick, but damn bro, I just cant read one more of your whiney posts. Maybe im havin a bad day or need to go kick my dog or something, but ide rather get kicked in the head with a golf shoe, then hear this crap anymore. Its not about this post, its your whining over the last ooooo well ,since you been here pretty much. If you feel the need to fire back and defend yourself or to lower yourself even more, be my guest, but I think most of us would rather you just know your role, and keep your lips just like my front door....Shut..

[Stine Stables]

Wow!!!!!!!!!!